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BDSM, Personality and Mental Health

Συζήτηση στο φόρουμ 'Σαδομαζοχισμός' που ξεκίνησε από το μέλος DeSade, στις 25 Οκτωβρίου 2018.

  1. DeSade

    DeSade Owner of evelin

    A recent study on the psychological profile of BDSM (bondage-discipline, dominance-submission, sadism-masochism) practitioners has attracted a great deal of media attention, with headlines proclaiming that “S&M practitioners are healthier and less neurotic than those with a tamer sex life.” Although BDSM has often in the past been thought to be associated with psychopathology, the authors of the study argued that practitioners are generally psychologically healthy, if not more so in some respects, compared to the general population. However, it should be noted that most of the apparent psychological benefits of being a practitioner applied to those in the dominant rather than the submissive role. Additionally, the study findings need to be treated with some caution because it is not clear that the comparison group is a good representation of the general population.

    BDSM involves a diverse range of practices usually involving role-playing games in which one person assumes a dominant role and another person assumes a submissive role. These activities often involve physical restraint, power plays, humiliation, and sometimes but not always, pain. The person playing the dominant role (or ‘dom’) controls the action, while the person in the submissive role (or ‘sub’) gives up control. Many people have a preferred role they play most of the time, although some people enjoy switching between roles (‘switches’).

    Is BDSM normal?
    The practice of BDSM carries with it a certain amount of social stigma (Bezreh, Weinberg, & Edgar, 2012), although the recent popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey[1]might be a sign of increased mainstream acceptance. Health professions have long had a tendency to view the practice as pathological and even perverted. Common assumptions about people who participate in BDSM are that they psychologically anxious and maladjusted; that they are acting out a past history of sexual abuse; and that they are attempting to compensate for sexual difficulties. However, the small amount of research evidence available suggests that these assumptions are probably not true. For example, a telephone survey conducted in Australia found that people who had participated in BDSM in the previous year were not more distressed than others; were not more likely than others to have ever been sexually coerced; and did not report more sexual difficulties (Richters, De Visser, Rissel, Grulich, & Smith, 2008). However, to be fair to the mental health profession, the current edition of DSM only considers sadism and masochism as mental disorders if they cause the person clinically significant distress or a non-consenting person has been involved. So BDSM practiced between consenting persons who are happy with what they are doing is not officially considered pathological.

    What are BDSM practitioners like?
    There has not been a great deal of research examining the psychological characteristics of BDSM practitioners, so the aim of a recent study (Wismeijer & van Assen, 2013) was to compare BDSM practitioners with people from the “normal” population on a range of personality traits. A good description and critique of the study can be found here. BDSM practitioners were recruited from a Dutch BDSM web forum. Comparison participants were recruited through notices concerning “online secrecy research.” These were obtained through a variety of sources including a popular Dutch women’s magazine and a website that allows visitors to post their secrets. I have some concerns about whether the comparison group is a good representation of the general population, which I will return to in due course.

    The study compared the BDSM practitioners and the control group on the Big Five personality traits – neuroticism, extraversion, openness to experience, conscientiousness, and agreeableness – as well as on rejection sensitivity, relationship attachment styles, and subjective well-being(happiness) in the past two weeks. People in the BDSM group were also broken down into ‘doms’, ‘subs’, and ‘switches’, based on their respective preferences, to allow further comparisons. There were noticeable genderdifferences in how people assorted into these roles, which are illustrated in the pie charts below. Among females, over three-quarters were subs, switches were a distant second in popularity, while doms were very much in the minority. Roles were a little more evenly spread among the males, although doms were most popular (who made up nearly half), followed by subs (just over a third) and then switches. This suggests that female BDSM practitioners are more likely than males to prefer gender-typical roles.
    Comparing the BDSM group as a whole with the controls gives a rather favourable impression of practitioners. The BDSM group as a whole were on average more extraverted, open to experience and conscientious, and less neurotic, as well as less sensitive to rejection, more securely attached, and higher in subjective well-being than the comparison group. On the less favourable side though, the BDSM group was less agreeable. High extraversion and low neuroticism tend to be associated with greater overall happiness, so it is not surprising that people with these traits appear psychologically secure and to have high subjective well-being. However, an overall comparison between practitioners and non-practitioners is actually misleading to some extent because when doms, subs, and switches were compared to the control group, and with each other, the results were more uneven. A more detailed examination of these differences shows some interesting patterns.

    Openness to experimentation
    Each of the three BDSM groups scored higher than the controls on openness to experience, so it is fair to say that practitioners generally tend to be more open-minded. This is not surprising, as openness to experience is associated with willingness to experiment with unusual and unconventional behaviours. Openness to experience is also associated with a trait called sexual sensation-seeking which relates to a desire to be sexually uninhibited and to explore novel sexual experiences (Gaither & Sellbom, 2003). I find it interesting in this regard, that the Australian survey mentioned earlier found that people who participated in BDSM had experienced a wider range of sexual practices, and had a greater number of lifetime sexual partners compared to non-participants. In fact, BDSM participants were significantly more likely to claim to have had 50 or more sex partners in their lives, and to have participated in group sex. This would indicate that people into BDSM tend to be very open to sexual experimentation generally (or perhaps that they are prone to wild exaggeration!).

    Love of discipline?
    Both doms and subs, but not switches for some reason, scored higher than controls on conscientiousness. Conscientiousness is a broad trait related to self-discipline and has two major aspects related to orderliness and achievement striving respectively. The study did not examine whether either of these aspects were more prominent in BDSM practitioners. However, I would suspect that people who are attracted to BDSM probably have a high need for orderliness, and have a fond appreciation of rules and boundaries. Whether they have a high need for achievement or not remains to be seen. Going further, perhaps subs are the sort of people who prefer to have discipline and order provided for them, while doms are the sort who like imposing rules and structure on others. This difference in preference for controlling or being controlled may well relate to differences in agreeableness between these two groups.

    Disagreeable dominants, sweet submissives
    Agreeableness is related to overall pleasantness and consideration for the comfort of other people. Subs and switches actually did not differ from the control group in agreeableness. However, doms were lower than both the controls and the subs in agreeableness. People who are low in agreeableness tend to be tough rather than tender minded, are willing to make hard decisions, and tend to be bossy and demanding in the way they relate to others. Thus it would seem that people who are into BDSM generally prefer the role that fits their own level of agreeableness. Tough, domineering people would seem to prefer the dominant role, while those who are more tender and willing to please naturally fit into the submissive role. I found this particularly interesting because it suggests that doms have found a way to express their disagreeableness in a way that is actually welcomed and appreciated by their submissive partners. This is in contrast to more ordinary disagreeableness in everyday life which is usually seen as annoying and rude.

    I have elsewhere come across the idea that people into BDSM like to explore roles that are the opposite of their day-to-day roles, e.g. those who are accustomed to ordering people around are attracted to the submissive role (see here for example). The thinking behind this is that such people like to have a way of compensating for the pressure of command and experiencing a sense of relief from the burden of being responsible for others. However, the findings in this study would seem to suggest that the majority of practitioners are drawn to roles that reflect rather than compensate for their normal personalities. Perhaps, there is a minority subgroup of people who go against this trend, but further more detailed studies would be needed to test if this is true.

    Regarding extraversion, the only significant difference was that subs were more extraverted than the control group. Extraversion is related to both sociability and assertiveness. I therefore found it surprising that the doms were not higher on extraversion (due to the assertiveness component) than other groups. Why subs were higher on extraversion is not totally clear. Perhaps they have a particularly friendly outgoing nature. Extraversion is also related to excitement seeking, so perhaps subs find the attention they receive and the unpredictability of participating in role-playing satisfies this need for excitement. More detailed surveys would make this clearer.

    Calm and in control
    The Big Five personality trait that has been most strongly linked to mental health versus pathology is neuroticism (Malouff, Thorsteinsson, & Schutte, 2005). As an illustration, in the BDSM study, neuroticism had large positive correlations with anxious attachment, need for approval, and sensitivity to rejection, and a large negative correlation with subjective well-being. Perhaps the most striking finding of this study is that the doms were significantly lower in neuroticism than all the other groups, and this was the statistically largest difference between groups. Doms also scored lower in rejection sensitivity and need for approval compared to subs and the control group, while the latter two groups did not differ from each other in either of these measures. Furthermore, the doms scored higher in subjective well-being than all the other groups as well. Subs and switches did not differ from the control group in neuroticism or subjective well-being. Rejection sensitivity and need for approval, like neuroticism, are negatively correlated with subjective well-being, so the fact that doms scored low on these measures may well account for their high levels of subjective well-being.

    High neuroticism is associated with self-conscious emotions, such as guilt, shame, and embarrassment, as well as a host of other negative emotions. People who are low in neuroticism therefore tend to be relatively untroubled by these feelings. Perhaps people who prefer the dom role tend to be those who are relatively shameless, self-confident, not easily embarrassed, and who do not feel guilty or shy about inflicting punishments during their role-plays. Additionally, they do not seem to be overly concerned about seeking other people’s approval, but instead may expect other people to gain their approval instead. This would seem to fit well with the role they play in BDSM where they demand obedience from the sub.

    What about honesty-humility?
    The desire to obey and be subjugated leads to consideration of a personality trait not discussed by Wismeijer and van Assen’s study. Some researchers have proposed that there is a sixth factor of personality, known as honesty-humility, that is separate and distinct from the more well-known Big Five factors (Bourdage, Lee, Ashton, & Perry, 2007). One intriguing possibility is that subs might score particularly high on this factor. Subs seek self-abasement and humiliation in their role-playing. Although humiliation and humility are not the same thing, it seems intuitively plausible that they are related. Furthermore, doms might be the opposite, possessing a desire to feel superior to others. Research could confirm whether subs are higher than average, or indeed whether doms are lower than average in this important trait.

    But did the control group provide a fair comparison?
    To summarise briefly, the findings of the BDSM study suggest that practitioners in general are open-minded about having unusual experiences, and tend to be self-disciplined people. However, most of the psychological benefits claimed to be associated with BDSM, such as low neuroticism, more secure attachment and higher subjective well-being belong to doms rather than subs or switches. However, subs were more extraverted than the other groups. On the other hand, doms appear to be more disagreeable than other people, which seems to suit them in their preferred role. This seems all well and good, however I am concerned that the control group might or might not be a good representation of the general population. The control group was largely drawn from a website recruiting people for research into secret keeping. There are all sorts of reasons that people keep secrets, and generally speaking it is normal to do so occasionally. However, some people have particularly secretive personalities where they feel that there are parts of themselves that they would prefer not to reveal to other people due to shame or fear of rejection. The trait of being secretive in this way, known as self-concealment, is associated with high neuroticism and low subjective well-being (Wismeijer & van Assen, 2008). It is possible that people who feel drawn to use websites where they can post secrets anonymously or who are willing to participate in secrecy research might have elevated levels of self-concealment. If this was the case, it is possible that the control group in the BDSM study might have had higher than average levels of neuroticism and associated traits such as rejection sensitivity. If so, this would imply that the BDSM groups who did not differ from the control group, especially the subs might also have high levels of neuroticism, rejection sensitivity and so on. This would imply that the doms were not especially unusual in their personality traits, because they were being compared to a group with high averages. Currently we do not know if any of these concerns apply to the control group or not so the study findings need to be treated with a degree of caution.

    Future research should aim to confirm the findings of the BDSM study with a more representative control group, along with a broader range of measures of mental health (e.g. screening for drug use and abuse) to explore to what extent people into BDSM really do enjoy better mental health than other people. Researchers could also investigate how well adjusted practitioners are in their lives and relationships in general. For example, are doms, being low in agreeableness, particularly antagonistic in their relationships in general, outside of BDSM? Additionally, considering the sexual promiscuity of BDSM practitioners revealed in a previous survey, it would be important to examine their attitudes towards risky sexual practices and whether they are at higher than usual risk of sexually transmitted diseases. BDSM encompasses a wide range of practices in a variety of contexts, e.g. in committed relationships, as well as more casual settings. Future research might consider more specific aspects of how people participate in BDSM to provide a richer understanding of the psychology of this intriguing area of human life.

    Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...lse/201307/bd…
     
  2. Mr.Hfaistos

    Mr.Hfaistos Regular Member

    Δε ριχνεις κ τη μεταφραση;
     
  3. Black Dog Stray Michael

    Black Dog Stray Michael Regular Member

    Μμμ, ωραία έρευνα. Αρα τίποτα οριστικό ακόμη σαν πόρισμα σε σχέση με το γενικό πληθυσμό. Τουλάχιστον μας μελετάνε, τιμή μας!  
     
  4. Aυτο που περιμενουμε να μας πει η ερευνα ειναι το ποσοστο των bdsmers που ειχε συγκεκριμενα προβληματα στο παρελθον: Καταθλιψη, αγχωδη διαταραχη, κακοποιηση και τα συναφη. Μας ενδιαφερει περισσοτερο να ανακαλυψουμε τα αιτια που οδηγουν στο bdsm.
     
  5. Stalker

    Stalker Not a very nice guy Contributor

    Γενικά μιλώντας και αφήνοντας κατά μέρος τις τυχόν ενστάσεις για την αντιπροσωπευτικότητα-εγκυρότητα των δειγμάτων τις οποίες και ο ίδιος ο συγγραφέας του άρθρου εκφράζει, προσωπικά δεν εκπλήσσομαι διόλου από τα αποτελέσματα-συμπεράσματα των ερευνών.
    Αναμενόμενα κατ’εμέ για κάθε άνθρωπο που, όπως οι περισσότεροι bdsmers , ξεπερνώντας εσωτερικές ή εξωτερικές αντιστάσεις κάθε είδους(εύκολα ή δύσκολα ίσως και ανάλογα με το status) ζει μια πλήρη και γεμάτη ερωτική ζωή ικανοποιώντας τις επιθυμίες και τις ανάγκες του.
     
  6. cadpmpc

    cadpmpc Contributor

    Πάγια γνώμη μου είναι πως όποια έρευνα στο πεδίο αυτού που λέγεται ψυχολογία, και όχι μόνον, ασχολείται με δεδομένες ή αυθαίρετες κατηγορίες/υποκατηγορίες εκδήλωσης φαινομένων ή συμπεριφορών, και όχι στο φαινόμενο ή την συμπεριφορά καθεαυτά (αίτια/αφορμές/ζητούμενα/ιστορικότητα κλπ), αν μη τι άλλο προσφέρεται για κάθε είδους προσέγγιση κατά το όποιο δοκούν.
    Γεγονός που αποτυπώνεται στην πολιτική ορθότητα της έκφρασης "bdsm practitioners"...
    Μια έρευνα σχετικά με τα ιδιοχαρακτηριστικά των παιδιών που προτιμούν να παίζουν "κυνηγητό" από τα παιδιά που παίζουν "κρυφτό", λέμε τώρα, θα προσέφερε κάτι τις..?
     
  7. Manipulator

    Manipulator Regular Member

    Γιατί στην αλλοδαπή ;...
     
  8. Black Dog Stray Michael

    Black Dog Stray Michael Regular Member

    Και έστω ότι σοβαρή έρευνα βρίσκει ότι όλοι οι bdsmers εξαναγκάζονταν πχ μικροί από τους γονείς τους να διαβάζουν τα μαθήματα τους. Αναρωτιέμαι πώς θα αντιμετώπιζε μετά αυτή την πρακτική μια κοινωνία σαν τη δική μας.  

    Ελπίζω να το βλέπω λάθος, αλλά οπότε ακούω για τέτοιες έρευνες αισθάνομαι ότι ένας επιστήμονας σε κάποιο γραφείο σκέφτεται με στεναχωρημενο ύφος: "μη φοβάστε, θα σας θεραπεύσω".  
     
  9. brenda

    brenda FU very much

     
    Processing Emotions are Impaired in Psychopaths

    This meme is based upon an old (2001) study by Drs. Kiehl and colleagues.

    They investigated a group of psychopaths with the use of fMRI.

    They learned that when psychopaths processed emotional words, the parts of the brain that were most responsive were the reasoning and language areas - NOT the emotion areas.

    Psychopaths interpreted the words, made sense of them - but they did not 'feel' them.

    Conversely, non-psychopaths were presented with the same task.

    As would be expected the limbic system (emotion processing area) of the brain responded properly. For non-psychopaths it was not merely a cognitive task for them.

    Since that 2001 study, there have been numerous studies with similar findings.

    If you were involved with a psychopath - you already know they do not 'feel' you.

    They do not care. They do not connect. And they are often perplexed by the complex emotions of others ... especially if you are an empath.

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    * This is why many people with psychopathy seem robotic and cold.

    * This is why it is really rare to see them giggling, laughing, and seeming freely into a humorous moment with you (EXCEPT when it involves the pain or humiliation of another -- because that activates a different section of the brain than what is illustrated here.)

    * This is why it seems like a magnet to wood when it comes to trying to connect with them.

    * This is why you can explain how much certain behavior hurts you OR even cry in pain in front of them and they are not moved by it.

    Reference: Limbic Abnormalities in Affective Processing by Criminal Psychopaths as Revealed by Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging
     
  10. Ενας ψυχοπαθης μπορει να ειναι συναισθηματικα ψυχρος παντοτε αλλα μπορει και οχι παντοτε. Το μονο σιγουρο ειναι πως η λογικη του ειναι παρανοικη αρα δεν σκεφτεται βασει λογικης αλλα βάσει της δικης του λογικης που ειναι παραλογη για τον μη ψυχοπαθη.
     
  11. Alpha Wolf

    Alpha Wolf Ενας, αλλα Λυκος.

    Ενας,μια ψυχοπαθης δεν εχει συναισθηση της ζημιας που κανει, ουτε δειχνει μεταμελεια.
    Εχει το συνδρομο του αυτοκλητου σωτηρα, τα ξερει ολα χωρις να ξερει τιποτα και δεν αμφισβητει ποτε μα ποτε τον εαυτο του, της.
    Μπλινγκ.....

    Nuff said.